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The End Of Marriage and Love: Before the Collapse

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7 thoughts on “The End Of Marriage and Love: Before the Collapse

  1. Hey, how is the picture from Ukrainian anti-government uprising at 17:33 relevant here? Those tents in the center of Ukrainian capitol – Kyiv – is where the civilized portion of Ukrainian society took stand against corrupt and backwards government that was trying to drag the whole nation back under russian control into lawlessness and barbarism.

  2. You make some good points, but you rely too much on a very simplified version of history. For instance, you say the Church (the Christian Church) tried to stop people from hedonism, from switching partners whenever they felt like it. This supposes that either before the Church, or in the early days of the Church, people were doing just that. Not so. Romans were very dedicated to maintaining the family structure, in particular as a means of keeping wealth in the family. At the same time, most “barbarian” tribes of the same period had strict laws about marriage. Marriage in both of these communities operated principally as a means of ensuring property and wealth. What the Church did was to come in and say, for instance, you can’t marry your sixth, fifth, fourth, third, second, or first cousin. Why? Scholars debate this, but it seems largely to have been a way of trying to break up the power structure of the old Roman families, and give the Church more power. It had nothing to do with morality. The Church may have said that marriage is between one man and one woman–but this was already the standard practice and understanding of most of the surrounding societies. Some barbarian groups allowed polygamy, but only if you were actually wealthy enough to maintain the wives and resulting offspring, limiting the practice to, basically, chieftains. Even when the Church had more power in the Middle Ages, say in the time of Charlemagne, they might disapprove of the kings often having multiple wives and concubines, but they didn’t actually do anything about it–they never excommunicated a king over the practice.

    Simply put: the Church may have paid lip service to idea of marriage, but they didn’t have a huge hand in institutionalizing it.

  3. Let’s be real boy’s and girl’s we don’t really need to meet the other to reproduce anymore. Think about sperm and egg banks. If you don’t want to get married but still perpetuate your line there is no reason anymore. I’m not saying this is good. I am saying once hedonist/the occupationally minded people realize this, the problem could get much worse.

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